Welcome to the first episode of a new collaboration podcast between Ship-Talking and Hero Collector! For this maiden voyage, Brandon is joined by Hero Collector's very own Ben Robinson and John Ainsworth to discuss what went into the making of the La Sirena (the hero ship from Star Trek: Picard) model, including some behind-the-scenes fun. Ship models discussed in this Pod series can be purchased here. Ship-Talking Pod is also on Patreon. In return for your support, which makes everything we do possible, we provide special benefits including expanded episodes of our main Pod, the ability to chat in Discord with some of the guests that join us, special patron-only giveaways, and much more. Head to patreon.com/shiptalkingpod for details. Hailing frequencies are always open at www.shiptalkingpod.com or email firstname.lastname@example.org.